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Title: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: Waffo on February 07, 2010, 01:21:55 PM
Here's another attempt at some discussion.  Let's say you have a friend who thinks anime is for kids/hentai/mindless entertainment/Naruto/etc.  If you wanted to prove them wrong, what would you show them?  Keep in mind that some awesome shows have horrible beginnings that mind turn someone away from it.

I would probably go with specific episodes of Mushishi.  Maybe Princess Mononoke as well.
Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: Aoshi101 on February 11, 2010, 06:13:17 PM
If anything it would be a anime film than a series. All TV series have major flaws, whether it comes at the beginning, middle or end. You don't want them wasting a couple weeks watching a show with a big flaw. Movies have a higher chance of having smaller flaws and not very noticeable. Never ran into a perfect movie but movies don't waste a couple weeks to watch.

The movie I would recommend is Cowboy Bebop film. If they enjoyed it it would open the door to watch the anime. From there you introduce said person to animes of nearly the same type. Keeps getting larger from there.
Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: Waffo on February 12, 2010, 01:57:53 PM
Ah, when I think of movies, I'd probably add Tokyo Godfathers too, then.

The main reason I'm asking this is because a guy in one of my classes wants some recommendations.  Unfortunately, he only watches Naruto and Bleach.  I recommended Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann but he looked the series up and was like, "It's only 27 episodes?  That's not enough for any character development!  That's too short!".  So I'm a bit frustrated.
Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: Aoshi101 on February 12, 2010, 02:40:58 PM
If he's looking for long ass series then get him started with DBZ, Rurouni Kenshin, Ranma, and Urusei Yatsura. That sall I can really recommend for long series.
Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: Waffo on February 13, 2010, 06:35:55 PM
But I want to get him out of the train of thought that a show has to be as long as the Wall of China to have good character and plot development!  I mean, it's usually the exact opposite!
Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: Aoshi101 on February 17, 2010, 10:47:52 PM
Well short of tying him to a chair and stapling his eyelids open, its going to be extremely hard to get him to sit down to watch a short series. Maybe you can convince with the argument that he already spends who knows how many weeks watching a lengthy series that watching a shorter series is no different?
Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: Waffo on February 22, 2010, 01:06:23 AM
You know, I think he's a hopeless cause.  Ah well, there's always more knowledgeable anime fans on the internet.  >_>  Not that there aren't a bunch of fans like him as well but at least they're outnumbered in most areas. 

*sighs*
Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: Kite on March 02, 2010, 08:04:35 AM
"Eureka Seven" had a good character development, good plot and its not really that long or short, well it did drag a bit at the beginning but the story paced up at the middle.

as for Movies
"5cm per Second" might be a good it strikes a good deal of emotion when watching it and you can understand it all in just an hour like aoishi said so it might be a good starter, same goes for "Toki wo Kakeru shoujo" its just fun watching it.

prolly a good idea to keep him away from Naruto and Bleach anime, i suggest making him read the manga, the anime of those two are just plain poison to the mind, no offense to those who likes the anime.


Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: fightingmelee on March 03, 2010, 07:21:34 AM
I believe u are all forgetting about the Gundam Series.

I would recommend Gundam Wing because of it's seriousness in each episode. Each of the episodes has a story to tell on it's own

Then probably Gundam SEED. I know nothing about it but hearing from Aoishi and a couople of friends. it's a really good series with messed up events.

Lastly my favorite is Gundam 00. Just because
Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: Kite on March 06, 2010, 02:00:20 PM
Well id particularly recommend following the proper timeline and watching the first Gundam series but for starters prolly 00(prolly its becoz the matters concerning the story is actually happening right now) would be the best, since Wing heavy on the Politics, Seeds Good but Destiny is a freaking mistake(--,) Mobile Fighter Gundam G is for those who wants some GAR moments in Gundam(correction its all about being GAR in G, i guess thats what G means)

Another good one would be Macross though old it still good i also suggest Macross Frontier its pretty good.

Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: fightingmelee on March 08, 2010, 07:21:25 PM
see take it from someone who knows well like Kite. The Gundam series will put your friend on a straight path.
After that, give him a short series were it is possible to give the main character a background story. Like GetBackers, or SoulEater. not really recommending those, just suggesting how short the series is.
Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: Kite on March 09, 2010, 03:08:46 AM
well it still depends on the taste of the person really, if the person isnt really interested in mecha animes then hed drop the anime in a few ep, kinda like when i got bored watching Kanokon after just a 3 ep and Rosario+Vampire in just 5 ep too much ecchiness killed the anime for me, not enough story to keep me really interested, same goes for Green Green and other ones i forgot.

"it all depends on taste"
Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: Waffo on March 09, 2010, 08:40:57 PM
Oh man, 52 episode series are "short"?  Then what are my shows?  Super midget short?
Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: Kite on March 09, 2010, 11:46:23 PM
Oh man, 52 episode series are "short"?  Then what are my shows?  Super midget short?
lol hows that short? is he onto series thats round the 100's or something?
Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: fightingmelee on March 15, 2010, 04:03:26 PM
if thats the case, then naruto and bleach is perfect for him. That is if he wants crappy anime
Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: Asian_InvAsian on March 15, 2010, 09:31:56 PM
I would probably recommend The Melancholy of Suzumiya...i mean that's bound to make them start liking anime right?

GO HARUHIISM!!
Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: Yukio on March 16, 2010, 06:57:13 AM
Hmm, if I were to recommend an anime series for someone to start with I would have to say begin with a classic anime or one of the most memorable. Among those I would recommend Trigun and Cowboy Bebop. They both have mature storylines with comedic and serious parts. Also, both start out extremely well with excellent storylines.
Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: Waffo on March 16, 2010, 07:27:59 PM
Ah Cowboy Bebop.  I really have to watch it all in order sometime. 
Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: Kite on March 17, 2010, 12:14:04 AM
Why not Code Geass? sure it has some major plot holes on it but nonetheless its good.
Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: Yukio on March 17, 2010, 02:49:44 AM
The great thing about Cowboy Bebop is that it can be watched in any order, except the last few episodes, and you won't become lost.

Honestly, I have never watched Code Geass so I could not recommend it.
Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: Kite on March 17, 2010, 03:34:35 AM
its worth trying it Yukio you might like it though still those plot holes really takes the anime aback.
Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: Yukio on March 17, 2010, 08:43:31 AM
I have always intended to start the anime though every time I am about to I usually end up doing something else. Fate conspires against me when trying to watch Code Geass. ^_^
Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: fightingmelee on March 17, 2010, 11:50:05 AM
u can watch it right after u post a comment. Code Geass is nice. A lot of ppl hate the season 2 ending. personally, I love it
Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: Waffo on March 30, 2010, 07:38:19 PM
Code Geass?  I don't want to recommend a Sunrise trainwreck.
Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: Kite on April 03, 2010, 08:19:08 PM
Code Geass?  I don't want to recommend a Sunrise trainwreck.
well its true that the anime has some pretty major flaws and Sunrise is Milking it for all its worth like Evangelion on Gainax. (--,) but its not that bad right...

.Hack//Sign is a good one the storys pretty deep and the whole .hack// Franchise has so much to make people interested.
Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: Asian_InvAsian on April 05, 2010, 09:17:09 PM
Well talking about classics, why not one of the Studio Ghibli films?
Personally my favorites are Laputa, Spirited Away and Howl's Moving Castle
Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: Waffo on April 06, 2010, 09:53:21 AM
I gave up on the guy.  He was teasing me, saying that some guy in the class "likes me" because of a show I mentioned.  On the other hand, someone else in the class recognized Ghost in the Shell because it was mentioned on my lanyard and she just finished Baccano.  Nice.

Conversation with hopeless guy goes:
Him: Hey, hey, that guy doing the presentation up there?  He told me he likes you.  He says that he watches that show that you like.  The ra-something show.
Me: What? 
Him: You know, the one you recommended.  Your favorite.  He says it's his favorite too.  You should go talk to him.
Me.  ...Gurren Lagann?
Him: Yeah, you love it, right?
Me: It's not my number one favorite, by any means.
Him: Oh.

...yeah.  Why do I even bother?
Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: Kite on April 07, 2010, 06:32:31 AM
its a hopeless war :P
Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: Asian_InvAsian on April 13, 2010, 08:29:21 PM
I've noticed the younger generation doesn't appreciate the classics much at all....It's a bit sad actually
Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: Waffo on April 14, 2010, 09:26:30 PM
Like Evangelion and Akira?  I can't believe there are people who haven't watched Akira.  Or even some fairly famous Ghibli films, such as Grave of the Fireflies.
Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: Kite on April 15, 2010, 02:51:53 AM
Or Even Laputa...the anime fad these days are all bout fanservicing and moe and some plot has been thrown, only a handful of anime keeps me interested these days.
Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: Waffo on April 15, 2010, 05:46:46 PM
Or Even Laputa...the anime fad these days are all bout fanservicing and moe and some plot has been thrown, only a handful of anime keeps me interested these days.

Well, actually...I enjoy those moeblob shows.  K-ON!, Clannad, that kind of stuff.  As long as it's still some quality. 
Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: Kite on April 16, 2010, 02:18:50 AM
Clannad had a good story and a lot of impact cant say the same for K-On its weird how after i watch an episode of K-On i forgot what happened.
Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: Motoko-chan on April 16, 2010, 08:36:04 AM
Recommendations are kinda useless since people have different preferences. I do agree that for most, a movie would be a good introduction as it's short enough to not waste too much time and often has a better budget than many shows.

If the person is rather artistic, Paprika is a good start. It does have some parts that might be bordering on sexual, but it's treated very artistically. Likewise, some of the animation effects (curtain tear into reality, wobbly rooms, transformations, etc) will catch someone that likes art.

For more serious, many Ghibli films will work well. The English releases are mostly very good (Disney has the money to ensure that), so you might even convince someone who isn't into subtitles.

Interestingly, my first real introduction to anime was with Serial Experiments: Lain. Not the usual show to pull one in.

But, like said before, it really depends on the person.


Like Evangelion and Akira?  I can't believe there are people who haven't watched Akira.  Or even some fairly famous Ghibli films, such as Grave of the Fireflies.

I finally saw Akira about a year ago. It was on Encore (one of the premium cable channels, similar to HBO, but movies-only). I had been meaning to watch it, but never got around to it. I did see Evangelon however in crappy AVI-encoded VHS-vision (go go crappy encodes!).

Grave of the Fireflies is also on my to-watch list (I have it too), but I just need to find a big enough block of time.

Since I mostly can only fit in about 30 - 60 minutes right now, I tend to watch shows instead of movies. And yes, I did enjoy K-On!. I even thought Code Geass was fairly decent (both season one and R2/Season two - rumors are out that there will be a third season).
Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: Yukio on April 16, 2010, 11:04:38 AM
With all the posts about old anime why has one of the best ones not be mentioned...Lupin III is certainly a classic. ^_^
Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: Asian_InvAsian on April 16, 2010, 08:59:17 PM
Or Even Laputa...the anime fad these days are all bout fanservicing and moe and some plot has been thrown, only a handful of anime keeps me interested these days.

Yeah it's just as Kite said, i mean are they serious (_)? To think that all you need is ecchi and fanservice to make a popular series these days...

Although The Girl Who Leapt Through Time is one of the better anime movies i've watched in a long time.
Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: Kite on April 19, 2010, 05:18:41 AM
"if it sells why not sell it?" thats what my Prof. in management used to say, Eroticism Sells thats why they use it and the fact that there are more Type B otakus now a days
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/01/16/the-two-types-of-anime-otaku/ (http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/01/16/the-two-types-of-anime-otaku/) im partly B myself but not by a whole bunch.

"Summer Wars" is a Good Movie i recommend watching it.

Serial Experiments: Lain seems interesting(wiki'd it) i'll look for it if i ever have the time, im a real sucker for Dark Psychological Sci-fi genres. 

adding this one too for extra options though i think everyone of you guys watched it already.
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/04/18/animages-32nd-anime-grand-prix/ (http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/04/18/animages-32nd-anime-grand-prix/)
Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: Asian_InvAsian on April 19, 2010, 05:34:28 PM
lol i never knew there were two kinds of otakus. I guess i'm a type A - give me an anime with a good plot and characters over random ecchi anyday.
Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: Motoko-chan on April 30, 2010, 08:10:34 AM
I'm a bit of both types. Higashi no Eden was really great and I loved the complexity. Likewise, I loved the art (character design by ABe) in Lain and Texhnolyze. I do, however, enjoy the light stuff too. I still watch K-On!! (and the earlier K-On!), WORKING!, and Love Hina.

I'm not sure where To Aru Kagaku no Railgun would fit in, I'm guessing in the middle (the plot was quite complex, but it had lots of "cute" moments). I liked that as well.

As for introductions, I'm still of the mind that it depends on the person who will be introduced.
Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: Waffo on May 03, 2010, 11:24:17 PM
Likewise, I loved the art (character design by ABe) in Lain and Texhnolyze.

Niea_7?  Haibane Renmei? 
Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: Motoko-chan on May 07, 2010, 11:00:41 PM
Likewise, I loved the art (character design by ABe) in Lain and Texhnolyze.

Niea_7?  Haibane Renmei?

HR was indeed awesome, although I wasn't impressed with Neia_7. I was specifically mentioning two of the darker series though, and HR isn't as dark.

Also, having started to watch RAINBOW, I think it would also make a good recommendation for those who like serious stuff.
Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: fightingmelee on May 09, 2010, 07:00:47 PM
Like Evangelion and Akira?  I can't believe there are people who haven't watched Akira.  Or even some fairly famous Ghibli films, such as Grave of the Fireflies.
ok I think I'll be the first to say.
Akira: Most boring anime I have ever watched.

There I said it. Sorr to disaapoint you, just couldn''t get into the story, made me fall asleep.
Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: Waffo on May 10, 2010, 09:02:20 PM
I can understand people not liking it but I have never heard of anyone bored during it.  Grossed out, yes.  Disturbed, also possible.  But it's not a movie with a lot of "talking heads" moments.  Didn't think someone could find it boring.
Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: Kite on May 11, 2010, 02:10:12 AM
Well i had a friend that walked out on me watching Akira when he found it too boring and complicated to watch :(

Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: fightingmelee on May 17, 2010, 05:36:55 PM
I felt there was  no plot in it. just some kid running around destroying things cause he can
Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: Kite on May 21, 2010, 06:35:31 AM
I felt there was  no plot in it. just some kid running around destroying things cause he can
And thats their Slogan *cosmo voice*

if you dont like it, you dont like it, everyone has different taste as Motoko said.

Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: Yukio on May 23, 2010, 12:00:01 AM
There is always X. Very little plot but it has some interesting characters.
Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: fightingmelee on May 27, 2010, 05:27:21 AM
I have the need to watch mega man. been watching medabots for awhile now
Title: Re: Your recommendations for noobs
Post by: Kite on May 28, 2010, 03:33:57 AM
Rockman you mean, Megaman is a pretty hard fail copy of Rockman, i suggest watching Rockman EXE.